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Oliver  St. John, of East Luccombe

Oliver St. John, of East Luccombe[1]

Male Abt 1320 - 1373  (~ 53 years)

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  • Name Oliver St. John 
    • THIS OLIVER ST. JOHN IS NOT OF THE FONMON de Port-St.John family! He is not the husband of Elizabeth de la Bere either.

      He had one son, John St. John who died shortly after him between 1373-1376.

      The Oliver de Port-St. John of Fonmon was married to Isabella de la Bere widow of John Arundel.

      The Fonmon St. John family is not related to the Uchel-olau St. John family paternally.
    Suffix of East Luccombe 
    Born abt. 1320  Instow, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Fact 1 1349  Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mentioned in Charter
    1349 ? Age: 29
    Maxey, Northamptonshire, England
    http://www.thestewartsinireland.ie/wentworths-fitzwilliam/ 
    • Maxey. ? [Makesey, Makyssey, Maxhey, Maxsey]
      The earliest deed here is dated in 1349 (F(M) Charter 1315). Among the owners or tenants of lands, etc. in Maxey in the 14th and 15th centuries are Roger de Northburgh, Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, Hugh de Sulgrave, Sir Geoffrey de la Mare, Sir William de Thorp, Oliver Seynt John, Walter Rodley, gent. etc. In 1529 Francis Pulter was lord of the manor, and in 1531 Henry, Duke of Richmond and Somerset. It appears from F(M) Charter 1339 that William Cecil, afterwards Lord Burghley, and Laurence Eresby, in 1551, held lands in Maxey from the Crown belonging to a perpetual chantry in Maxey. In a Northborough charter (F(M) Charter 1472) Lord Burghley is described as lord of Maxey.

      In appendix I are three documents of more than passing interest. The first (F(M) Charter 2285) is a Patent of Henry VIII to Richard Cecil, ?the King?s servant?, of the reversion of the offices of Constable or Warden of Maxey Castle, Bailiff of Maxey, etc. which had fallen to the Crown on the death of Margaret, Countess of Richmond, the King?s grandmother. The second (F(M) Charter 2286) is a lease to Sir William Cecil, afterwards Lord Burghley, son of the above Richard, from Princess Elizabeth of a close in Maxey called Ladiebridge close and the great garden of La Marre, a pasture called the Old Park, and other lands there. But the interest of the charter lies in the fact that it is sealed with a royal seal of Princess Elizabeth. It is unfortunately broken (but has been mended) and traces of letters seem to say that the legend was S.ELIZABETHE SOROR? EDWARDI REGIS. The existence of another seal of Elizabeth?s before her accession in 1558 is not known. The date of the deed is 20 March 1557. The third (F(M)Charter 2287) is a Particular of Maxey lands which has (on p.5) the following note: ?Memorandum, that the ferme of Waldranhall is an Inne sometime greatly frequented by pilgrymes passing to Walsingham and then let for vii li. and now lett for xl s.?
    Generation 10 
    Died Aug. 1373  East Luccombe, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • "Oliver St. John, "Chivaler." Died in Aug. 47 Edw. III. (1373). Seised of the manor of East Luccombe jure uxoris. Inq. p.m. 7 Ric. II., No. 115."
    Record Status 30 Aug 2014 
    Record Complete  
    Person ID SSH0008  St. John Origin and Ancestry DNA Database | St. John Generation One - Raoul de Sancto Johanne
    Last Modified 3 Mar 2015 

    Father Alexander St. John, Knight, of Instow, Devon, England, UK,   b. abt. 1286, Stanton-St. John, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. aft. 1351, Instow, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 66 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother (Margaret) Arundel,   d. abt. 1338, Instow, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship Birth 
    Married abt. 1319  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Genealogical Collections Illustrating the History of Roman Catholic Families in England: Based on the Lawson Manuscript, Lawson, Henry, (4 volumes. [London: s.n.], 1887), FHL microfilm vol. 1, 1559446 Item 8; vol. 2, 1559., vol. 3 p. 222.
    Family ID F4351  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth de Luccombe,   b. 1320, Stockleigh Luccombe, Devon Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 19 Jun 1335 
    Children 
    +1. John (I) St. John,   b. abt. 1339, East Luccombe, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. abt. 1374, Uchel-olau (High-light), Gwenfo, Glamorganshire, Wales, Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 35 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 6 Apr 2014 
    Family ID F4346  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - abt. 1320 - Instow, Devon, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsFact 1 - Mentioned in Charter 1349 ? Age: 29 Maxey, Northamptonshire, England http://www.thestewartsinireland.ie/wentworths-fitzwilliam/ - 1349 - Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Aug. 1373 - East Luccombe, Devon, England Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Documents
    MS 5.6-1 St. John page 495
    MS 5.6-1 St. John page 495
    MS 5.6 = Ph. 12126
    WELSH PEDIGREES, c. 1687
    A large and well-organised collection of Welsh and notably Glamorgan pedigrees arranged under the ‘fifteen tribes’ followed by the advenae of Glamorgan, evidently compiled by or for Francis Gwyn of Llansannor (who married the heiress of Ford Abbey, Devon, in 1690), see pp. 326, 627. Compiled before 1667–8, see pp. 327, 493. The main part of the MS is evidently a page for page copy of an exemplar in handsome italic script of which one leaf survives loose after p. 116. [Is this David Edwardes? cf. THSC (1976), p. 118]. Includes painted arms. Index on pp. 617–21.
    628 pp. Modern half-leather. ‘John Francis Gwyn 1819’ on p. 20. ‘MSS of Ford Abbey 236’ in TP’s hand on flyleaf.

    Heraldry
    St. John Shield
    St. John Shield
    Direct decendant of St. John at St. Jean-le-Thomas, Normandy, France

  • Sources 
    1. [S127] Genealogical Collections Illustrating the History of Roman Catholic Families in England: Based on the Lawson Manuscript, Lawson, Henry, (4 volumes. [London: s.n.], 1887), FHL microfilm vol. 1, 1559446 Item 8; vol. 2, 1559., vol. 3 p. 223. (Reliability: 3).


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