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Jacob St. John

Male 1745 -



  • Name Jacob St. John 
    Born 30 Aug 1745 
    Gender Male 
    Notes 
    • Wow! Excellent work and please email as much and as often as necessary. I agree you are onto a great find. Any idea who Jershua married?

      On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:06 PM battle@uw.edu wrote:
      Hi Suz,



      I apologize once again for the multiplicity of replies. Now that I’ve started looking into this line the interesting things are rapidly developing.



      I think that I have identified Phebe, the wife of Jacob St. John (father of the War of 1812 soldier), though it is by no means definite.



      At first the use of “Mather” as the name of one of Jacob and Phebe’s children led me to think that that might be her surname, but I couldn’t find a Phebe Mather that fits (not that that rules out the possibility). Then I discovered that there was a Recompence Thomas living in Ridgefield at the same time as Jacob St. John’s family, and as he was apparently the source of the name of Jacob and Phebe’s youngest son (Recompence Thomas St. John, b. 24 Jun 1779 in Lenox, MA), it made me wonder if he might be Phebe’s father. So I started researching this Recompence Thomas and his family:



      Recompence Thomas: b. 2 Nov 1709 in New Haven, CT; d. 18 Apr 1793 in Ridgefield, CT; m. Elizabeth (surname unknown) 26 Jul 1731 in Ridgefield. She survived him and apparently d. by 2 Oct 1797, when her portion of her husband’s estate was distributed among his children.

      Children of Recompence and Elizabeth (___) Thomas (all b. Ridgefield):

      1. Elizabeth Thomas, b. 18 Jan 1731/2 (m. Jacob Weed)

      2. Recompence Thomas (Jr.), b. 28 Jan 1734/5 (m. Sarah Lawrence)

      3. Jerusha Thomas, b. 17 Feb 1735/6 (m. James St. John)

      4. Mary Thomas, b. 4 Mar 1739/40 (m. ___ Bennett)

      5. Betty Thomas, b. 16 Apr 1742 (m. Thomas St. John)

      6. John Thomas, b. 19 Jun 1744 (m. Martha St. John)

      7. Hannah Thomas, b. 8 Apr 1746 (d. young)

      8. Phebe Thomas, b. 23 May 1747 (m. by 12 Dec 1793 ___ Smith [perhaps Elisha Smith], m. 2nd by 2 Oct 1797 David Row)

      9. Abraham Thomas, b. 30 Jun 1751

      10. Daniel Thomas, b. 30 Nov 1754

      11. Rebekah Thomas, b. 5 Sep 1756 (m. Stephen Jackson)



      You will note that three of his children married siblings of the Jacob St. John in question, so it is *possible* that Jacob named one of his sons in honor of a more distant in-law. However, the fact that Recompence had a daughter named Phebe who was the right age to be Jacob’s wife is intriguing.



      The probate records of Recompence Thomas are all online and available through Ancestry. In his will he named his wife and children, though without surnames for the daughters. In the first distribution of the estate to his children (made 12 Dec 1793), his children were listed as eldest son Recompence Thomas, second son John Thomas, third son Abraham Thomas, fourth son Daniel Thomas, eldest daughter Elisabeth Weed, second daughter Jerusha Saintjohn, third daughter Mary Bennet, fourth daughter Betty Saintjohn (wife of Thomas St. John, one of the executors), fifth daughter Phebe Smith, and youngest daughter Rebekah Thomas. There was a second distribution to the children 2 Oct 1797, this time of the widow’s portion; the children were listed as eldest son John Thomas (apparently Recompence Jr. had died), second son Abraham Thomas, youngest son Daniel Thomas, eldest daughter Elisabeth Weed, second daughter Jerusha St. John, third daughter Mary Bennet, fourth daughter Betty Saintjohn, fifth daughter Phebe Row, and youngest daughter Rebekah Jackson. The heirs (and their husbands) signed this second distribution: James St. John, Jerusha St. John, Thomas St. John, Betty Saintjohn, John Thomas, Daved Row, Phebe Row, Abraham Thomas, Jacob Weed, Elesebeth Weed, Stephen Jackson, Rebekah Jackson, and Daniel Thomas.



      So, the fifth daughter Phebe, who seems like a great candidate for being the wife of Jacob St. John, was married to a Smith in 1793 and to David Row in 1797. If she were Jacob’s wife, that would mean that he must have died sometime before 1793 (divorce being very rare in those days). Intriguingly, in the list of debts owed to the estate of Recompence Thomas dated 7 Oct 1793, appears a debt owed by note from “Phebe Jacob St. John Dec.”.



      More needs to be done on this, of course, but I think it is a very strong possibility that Phebe Thomas married (1st) Jacob St. John, (2nd) [Elisha?] Smith, and (3rd) David Row. That would make the fourth set of siblings getting married between the Samuel St. John and Recompence Thomas households.



      All the best,



      Robert

    Person ID OSA0226  St. John Origin and Ancestry DNA Database | St. John Generation One - Raoul de Sancto Johanne
    Last Modified 9 Jan 2018 

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    Father Samuel St. John,   b. 1702 - 1705, Norwalk, Fairfield, Connecticut, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Nov 1777  (Age 72 years) 
    Mother Sarah Wallace,   b. 1 Dec 1714,   d. 6 Jan 1754  (Age 39 years) 
    Married 8 Jan 1735 
    Family ID F198  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Phoebe Thomas, alleged daughter of Recompence Thomas (1709-1793),   b. 23 May 1747 
    Married 1767 
    Children 
    +1. Benjamin St. John,   b. 6 Jul 1768,   d. Abt 1815  (Age 46 years)
     2. Phoebe St. John,   b. 17 Jun 1770
    +3. Jacob St. John, War of 1812 Soldier (NY),   b. 4 Nov 1774, Lenox, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Allegan, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [Birth]
    Last Modified 6 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F256  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart


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