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John St. John

John St. John

Male 1607 - 1665  (~ 58 years)

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  • Name John St. John 
    Born Feb 1607  Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Generation 19 
    Occupation 18 Jul 1655  London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Citizen & Haberdasher
    Son: Nathaniel St. John Draper Company Apprentice for 7 year Bond
    Master: Thomas Mace Draper Company Master 
    Died 27 Sep 1665  St Botolph, Aldgate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I916  St. John Origin and Ancestry DNA Database | St. John Generation One - Raoul de Sancto Johanne
    Last Modified 3 Mar 2015 

    Father Master Thomas St. John, Gentleman,   b. abt. 1564, Uchel-olau (High-light), Gwenfo, Glamorganshire, Wales, Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 May 1625, St. Margaret's, Westminster, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 61 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Jane Mathew,   b. abt. 1566, Llandaff, Glamorgan, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. abt. 1609, Westminster, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 43 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Married abt. 1580 
    • AGE OF MAJORITY:
      WALES had a much different set of laws and customs pertaining to marriage. Even after Wales was part of England, they still followed local courts and customs and some even carry into today. The age of Majority was 21 for both men and women. This was purely for legal papers and had nothing to do with age of consent. The age of Maturity was often seen as 30 or 35 and this was an age when a person was thought worthy of being able to make judgements. These ages only applied to legal matters. A girl could marry at 12 and a boy at 14 but neither could directly inherit assets, hence they might be wards to a mature guardian. Children younger than 12 could be promised in marriage and in some cases such couples were brought up together in the same household. A girl usually needs to weigh about 98lbs to be able to conceive and that was the average weight for a non-working twelve year old.
      Some say a boy had to be age 17. There is no clear-cut rule. It seems to depend on the family dynamics for each individual situation.
    • MARRIAGE CONTRACT ? of Thomas St. John & Jane Mathew
      Robert Mathew held numerous lands in Glamorgan, Wales but until 1590 he had only daughters. In order to keep the lands from being shared among his daughters or returned to the crown, Robert Mathew likely entered into a business arrangement with Christopher St. John 1 to have his second son, Thomas marry his eldest daughter, Jane. Upon the creation of a male heir, Robert Mathew could leave his land holdings to this male in his will. Thomas St. John and Jane Mathew, likely a young couple, were married and produced the said offspring, Christopher St. John 2. However, in 1590 Thomas Mathew was born and following his birth another four sons were born. This resulted in Christopher St. John 2 no longer being the male heir to Robert Mathew. In Robert Mathew's will, he left Christopher St. John 2, 20 pounds but left nothing to Christopher's siblings. This was like a contingency payout to meet the terms of the contract between Christopher 1 and Robert Mathew. This is further evidenced by the fact that Robert Mathew had been making annual payments to Jane Mathew St. John that he lumped into a final payment in his will. These annual payments were likely part of the marriage contract upon the creation of Robert Mathew's male heir to support the said child and family.
      Since Christopher 2 now didn't stand much of a chance of inheriting St. John or Mathew estates, he was likely sent into a guild trade in 1594 as part of the indenture contracted created between Christopher St. John 1 and Thomas St. John from 1594 - 1616.
    • Will of Robert Mathew (Transcription)
      1 September 1608
      Probate Section:
      219. (On) the Fourth day of the month of December (in) the Year
      220. of (our) Lord the one thousandth six hundredth (&) eleventh, has issued a Commission (to) Thomas St John, gentleman,
      221. Husband of Jane Mathewe, the natural and legitimate daughter of Robert Mathewe, late of Cardiff, of Llandaff
      222. Diocese, deceased, having, etc., For administering the goods, rights, and credits of the said deceased, according to the tenor
      223. and effect of the testament and Codicil of the same deceased, During the minority of Thomas Mathewe,
      224. (on) the Thirteenth day of the month of February (in) the Year of (our) Lord, according to the course and computation of the Anglican church, the one thousandth six hundredth
      225. (&) eleventh, has issued a commission (to) Joan Mathewe[3], Relict of Robert Mathewe, late while he lived of Cardiff (in) the county of Glamorgan,
      226. deceased, having, etc., for administering the goods, rights, and credits of the same, according to the tenor and effect of the testament of the same deceased, during the minority of Thomas
      227. Mathewe, son of the said deceased, and the executor, etc., with regard to well, etc., sworn, (by) Letters of administration of the goods of the said deceased, with the testament annexed, otherwise (on) the 4th day of the month
      228. of December (in) the Year of (our) Lord 1611[/12][4], (to) the which Thomas St John, during the minority of the afore-mentioned executor, (by) the authority of this Court
      229. committed and granted today, in the Register of this Court introduced and voided.

      NOTE: Thomas Mathew likely turned age of majority , or21, on December 4, 1611/12 making his birthdate most likely December 4, 1590/1 and at this time, Thomas St. John relinquished his administration of Robert Mathew?s affairs over to Thomas Mathew and the court agreed he was to be paid for such service.
    Theory Welsh Theory by Suzanne St. John places Christopher as son of Thomas St. John, Esq. and Jane Mathew of Uchel-olau, Wales 
    • Christopher St. John (2) is listed as the son of Thomas St. John and Jane Mathew in the wills of Christopher St. John (1) d. 1616 and Robert Mathew d. 1608, their fathers respectively and Christopher 2's grandfathers.
    Documents
    Marriage of Thomas St. John & Jane Mathew
    Marriage of Thomas St. John & Jane Mathew
    Family ID F4328  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Wicksted 
    Married 15 May 1636  St. Botolph, Aldgate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Mary St. John,   c. 29 Jan 1636, St Botolph, Aldgate, London Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Nahaniell St. John,   c. 5 Aug 1638, St Botolph, Aldgate, London Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Jacob St. John,   c. 6 Dec 1640, St Botolph, Aldgate, London Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Elizabethe St. John,   c. 13 Feb 1641, St Botolph, Aldgate, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 May 1644, St Botolph, Aldgate, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 3 years)  [Birth]
     5. Elizabeth St. John,   c. 25 Feb 1645, St. Botolph, Adlgate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 4 Jul 1649, St. Botolph, Adlgate, London, England. Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 4 years)  [Birth]
     6. John St. John,   c. 31 Oct 1651, St. Botolph, Adlgate, London, England. Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 3 Mar 2015 
    Family ID F475  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Feb 1607 - Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 15 May 1636 - St. Botolph, Aldgate, London, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Citizen & Haberdasher Son: Nathaniel St. John Draper Company Apprentice for 7 year Bond Master: Thomas Mace Draper Company Master - 18 Jul 1655 - London, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    Baptism for John St. John
    Baptism for John St. John
    Burial of John St. John
    Burial of John St. John
    Marriage John St. John to Elizabeth Wickstead
    Marriage John St. John to Elizabeth Wickstead

    London Livery Company Records
    London Livery Record
    London Livery Record
    Event
    Date: 18/07/1655
    Year: 1655
    Apprenticeship
    Bond Length: 7 years
    Bond Value:
    Start Date:
    Note:
    Details Role Status
    Nathaniel Sensheon (Male)
    Not Stated - London
    New apprentice, Son
    John Sensheon (Male)
    Not Stated - London, London
    Father of apprentice Citizen and Haberdasher
    Thomas Mace (Male)
    Not Stated - Unknown
    Master Co Draper
    Event
    Date: 18/07/1655
    Year: 1655
    Apprenticeship
    Bond Length: 7 years
    Bond Value:
    Start Date:
    Note:
    Details Role Status
    Nathaniel Sensheon (Male)
    Not Stated - London
    New apprentice, Son
    John Sensheon (Male)
    Not Stated - London, London
    Father of apprentice Citizen and Haberdasher
    Thomas Mace (Male)
    Not Stated - Unknown
    Master Co Draper
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